935. - Jago Rackham

Speaker A: All right, uh, this episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by Stateside with Kai and Carter, a new podcast from The Guardian. And they are using this podcast to slow down the news and wrestle with the questions that we all have about what's happening in the world. And they do it 3 times a week. Jason, does that sound familiar to you? Speaker B: We don't really talk about, you know, a lot of international global news items and climates and cultures and sports and things like that. We do talk about fashion and wellness, but for everything else, Kai and Carter are a great place.

Speaker A: All right, so who couldn't use more news? Listen wherever you get your podcasts or watch on YouTube. Buongiorno, it's How Long Gone. Jason, I'm in Milan. It was a beautiful day today. I really got my steps in, as they say. What's up with you? Speaker B: Ciao, Chris. Ciao, Chris. How many steps did you take? In Italian, please, not in the traditional imperial measurement system. I need, uh, oh, I've, you know, kilometers or meters. Speaker A: I apologize, I can't, you know, I can't do that. Speaker B: I can change the setting in your health app, just let you know.

Speaker A: Oh shit, okay, I'll do that later. Yesterday I did touch 20, which is pretty extreme. I feel like I don't— I didn't feel great. Speaker B: 20,000 steps. Speaker A: Yeah, I didn't feel great. Speaker B: We've had— I feel like, I mean, it's not like a broken record, but the question of footwear does come to mind. I know you travel internationally, you walk a lot. Is this another day spent event with sockless penny loafers chewing up those cracker-ass heels of yours? Speaker B: 20,000 steps. Speaker A: Yeah, I didn't feel great.